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Will Gavin Newsom run for president? It’s the million-dollar question. Throughout his political career, there has been a sense that the California governor has been setting himself up for a potential presidential campaign .

Most recently, he’s been signaling his higher ambition in a new way: through a podcast . It has been a controversial venture, namely because of Newsom’s choices of guest. So far, they’ve included former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and right-wing provocateur Charlie Kirk. Marisa Lagos, a political correspondent at KQED who has covered Newsom for two decades, sees it as a national r

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