Joe Rogan and FBI Director Kash Patel were left gobstruck Thursday as Elon Musk offloaded on Donald Trump with claims the one-time playboy real estate developer is in the Jeffrey Epstein files and that’s why they haven’t been released.

“I’m not participating in any of that conversation,” proclaims a clearly shaken Patel, a person who has supposedly seen the files on the very well-connected pedophile billionaire who died mysteriously in police custody in 2019. Up to this point in the nearly two-hour conversation between Rogan and Trump ultra-loyalist Patel, there didn’t seem to be any topic he wouldn’t address.

Watch the nervous exchange here, and see below for the full interview:

“Jesus Christ, that’s a crazy thing to say,” sputtered UFC commentator Rogan as his producer sh

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