Before fintech darling Ramp was launching multimillion-dollar Super Bowl ads, disrupting time-consuming expense reports, and notching $1 billion in annualized revenue, cofounder Eric Glyman was seeking out tech’s most battled-tested CEOs for some sage business advice.

At Fortune ’s Brainstorm Tech conference last week, the 35-year-old entrepreneur shared that instead of turning to executive coaches for wisdom, he prefers candid one-on-one conversations with fellow entrepreneurs.

“I try to kind of go and call people up for an hour at a time,” he told Fortune Editor-in-Chief Alyson Shontell on-stage during a live recording of the Fortune 500: Titans and Disruptors of Industry podcast. “If I can just get their advice on AI or marketing or sales, learn just a little bit, ask them

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