"All Things Considered" host Mary Louise Kelly talks with KC Counts about her new podcast which drops every Thursday.

KC Counts:

I want to dive right in because I want to talk a little bit about your background and how you gravitated toward this side of journalism.

Mary Louise Kelly:

Sure. So, I launched the intelligence beat for NPR back in 2004 and took a few different permutations of it. I was Pentagon correspondent at one point. I was national security correspondent, but it all boiled down to I've just been fascinated by U.S. intelligence agencies and the intelligence world and the whole way that the United States and, of course, all of our allies and all of our adversaries conduct foreign policy through non-foreign policy channels, i.e. through defense channels, through intelligen

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