JAY-Z once gave Top Dawg Entertainment President Terrence “Punch” Henderson some sage advice concerning Kendrick Lamar‘s career, and those words have “stuck” with him to this day.

During an in-depth sit-down with Elise Not Elise, the record executive was asked if he and the TDE crew had any hesitations about releasing To Pimp a Butterfly given how left-field it was compared to Kendrick’s previous projects.

Punch answered by recalling a particularly impactful conversation he had with Hov during a studio session between SZA (who he also manages) and Beyoncé.

“While we were working on To Pimp a Butterfly, me and SZA would go to Beyoncé’s sessions — [SZA] was writing for her,” he said. “JAY-Z was there every night so I had a chance to talk to him and I told him, ‘Yo, we’re about to drop thi

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