PennLive’s Bob Flounders is joined by special guest Stephen Means of Cleveland.com to discuss Penn State’s 2025 demise and the unbeaten Ohio State Buckeyes’ bid to repeat as national champions.

OSU hosts Terry Smith’s Nittany Lions on Saturday afternoon at the Horseshoe.

Means goes into detail on how Ohio State has produced another fantastic season after losing so many talented players from its 2024 championship team.

Stephen also shares his thoughts on how last year’s Buckeyes were able to rebound from a crushing regular-season loss to Michigan and why Penn State never recovered from this year’s Oregon defeat.

The “Blue-White Breakdown Podcast,” a football podcast that focuses on Penn State from PennLive, is available on Alexa , Apple , Google , Sp

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