If you read any of WIRED’s recent AI edition , you know that lots of people are spending lots of time talking about how the technology is revolutionizing pretty much everything—from coding to writing to accounting. You’ve also probably heard by now, from us or somebody else, that we might very well be in an economic bubble of AI origin , one wherein the billions and billions of dollars being funneled into the industry is creating an untenable economic scenario that could turn catastrophic.

Of course, you may also have read that I’m really sick of being asked about AI . I’m still not sick, though, of asking other people about it—especially when they’re much smarter about this stuff than I am. Enter Joe Weisenthal, the cohost of Bloomberg’s fantastic Odd Lots podcast, and a former

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