Going to a two-year, in-person MBA program has long been a rite of passage for young professionals in finance, tech, and consulting. It’s a time to learn, develop ideas—and most of all, to network.

But one tech billionaire says nothing compares to just jumping right into entrepreneurship, and getting an MBA isn’t really all it’s cracked up to be. When asked by podcaster Codie Sanchez if people should get an MBA, Joe Liemandt promptly said “no.”

“That’s an easy one for me,” said the Trilogy Software and ESW Capital founder. “There’s nothing on the business knowledge that you’re going to come out of there that is a fraction of what you would get from building your own thing for that two years.”

Joe Liemandt explains the major flaw in the traditional MBA mindset and why a true entrepreneur

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