EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP) — The message is the same, even though the Las Vegas Raiders and Los Angeles Chargers find themselves in very different places going into their game Sunday: It’s time to get going.

The Raiders (2-9) have lost five in a row and eight of their past nine in head coach Pete Carroll’s first season. The playoffs are out of the question, and after firing two coordinators in the past three weeks, any sign of improvement is needed to justify not sweeping out the whole regime.

“We need to make progress, right from the get go,” Carroll said. “I mean, every game, we go out, we try and win every football game and we’re going to continue to only look at it in that manner. But we need to make progress, we need to get cleaner, we need to make sure that we’re functioning at a real

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