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James L. Brooks tells PEOPLE that tensions between himself, Debra Winger and Shirley MacLaine on the set of 1983's Terms of Endearment were "as rocky as it gets" for a time

Terms of Endearment won five Academy Awards in 1984, including acting wins for MacLaine and Jack Nicholson

"People were posing with their Oscars, and she sat there posing with an imaginary one," Brooks says of Winger, now 70

James L. Brooks is reflecting on the long-reported rift that developed between Debra Winger and Shirley MacLaine on the set of their 1983 hit Terms of Endearment .

Brooks, now 85, sat down with PEOPLE recently to discuss his legendary career producing, writing and directing across Hollywood and his new movie, Ella McCay .

While chatting about his directorial debut,

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