CLEVELAND, Ohio — The national NFL conversation has all but written off the Cleveland Browns this season, but according to the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast , the team is quietly harboring a weapon that could shock the entire league: a defensive line that’s being completely overlooked by everyone outside of Northeast Ohio.

“I just don’t hear anybody talking about that,” said podcast host Dan Labbe on this week’s episode. “You’ll hear them talk about Myles Garrett maybe, but you don’t hear people talking about this line as a whole. I think it’s relatively unknown outside of Cleveland, but I think what we’ve watched all summer is a group that could be pretty dominant.”

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