Donald Trump has found a kindred spirit in his Cabinet and spends countless hours on the phone with him until late at night as they watch TV and compare notes, according to a new report.

According to Axios founder Mike Allen, who appeared on MSNBC on Wednesday morning, Donald Trump has closely allied himself with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, who has, in the past, been at odds with other officials in the White House.

Just weeks ago Politico was reporting that White House insiders were questioning a proposal from the president for a “External Revenue Service” tasked with collecting tariff funds and additional reports that Lutnick might head up the effort, with an insider stating, “I was surprised when they gave it to Lutnick,” when it was in the planning stage.

On Wednesday morning, where MSNBC host Joe Scarborough called Lutnick “stupid,” Allen was asked about the relationship between the president and his much-maligned Cabinet member after reports that Trump was frustrated with him.

“Very interesting behind the scenes,” Allen offered. “Howard Lutnick and the president talk a ton. They talk a lot. At one in the morning. Trump calls Howard Lutnick a lot because he said he knows he's up. Howard Lutnick goes to bed around 1:30. He said the president goes to bed around two. So these two guys, third, New Yorkers, friends 30 plus years, one in the morning, they're on the phone.”

“Howard literally text him and say, ‘You up?’ and they'll watch TV together, watch Fox News, watch sports. So that's part of the significance of these comments Secretary Lutnick is very much channeling what's on the president's mind,” Allen added.

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