President Donald Trump appeared caught off guard Monday when asked if it would have been fitting to lower the nation’s flags after Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman was assassinated this summer.

“Uh, I’m not familiar. The who?” Trump said in response to CBS News correspondent Nancy Cordes, before adding that he would have agreed to the gesture if Gov. Tim Walz had formally asked. “Had the governor of Minnesota asked me to do that, I would have done that gladly,” Trump said from the Oval Office.

The exchange underscored Trump’s uneven reactions to recent political violence. He had quickly ordered flags lowered last week after conservative activist Charlie Kirk was fatally shot while giving a speech in Utah, calling it “a dark moment for America.”

He called Kirk a “martyr for truth”

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