President Donald Trump told everyone at Charlie Kirk’s memorial that he disagreed with the slain conservative activist’s reluctance to hate his political opponents because “cruelty” has always worked for him, Kara Swisher says.

The veteran tech journalist told The Daily Beast Podcast that while the president may have been attempting a joke, there was plenty of truth to what he said.

“It’s him. He was describing himself. At least he was truthful, right?” Swisher told host Joanna Coles.

“I don’t know. I feel like it was badly timed,” said Swisher. “I think he was trying to make a joke about how Charlie Kirk wasn’t like that—you know, you try to find something funny at a funeral. But I think that was the absolute truth about himself... That’s how he feels about people. He really does.“

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