Hoda Kotb admitted she had a painful “epiphany” that made her realize her long-term relationship with her ex-fiancé Joel Schiffman was over.

“I loved Joel then, and I love Joel now,” the TV personality told Today.com in an interview published Tuesday.

“I just had to remind myself that it was a different kind of love. You can still love and admire someone and not want to be in a relationship, a long-term relationship that way, personal relationship.”

“It just was an epiphany for me, and it took courage for me to say it,” Kotb, 61, added. “And when I did, I felt like, ‘OK, there it is.'”

Elsewhere in the interview, the retired “Today” show host revealed that she was a “pretender” in relationships and hinted that she drags them out longer than she should.

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