We all know Hailey Bieber for her “glazed donut” skin. But let’s be real: Achieving the dewy and clear-complexioned look of a billion dollar-acquired beauty business mogul requires a level of dermatological diligence and work. But Bieber is hitting back at the Botox and surgery allegations, getting candid about everything she actually does to maintain her skin.

On Friday (October 24), Bieber appeared on Owen Thiele’s podcast, In Your Dreams , where she discussed said skincare and beauty treatments in detail. “Skincare-wise, just tell me—pretend like we’re not doing a podcast—what do you do? Be real,” asked Thiele.

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Bieber said that she is “really diligent” with her skincare regimen. which (of course) includes products from Rhode, and other cult and derm faves li

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