PennLive’s Bob Flounders is joined by Doug Lesmerises on this episode.

Lesmerises, a former Ohio State football columnist for Cleveland.com, writes about Ohio State football and is part of “The Bill and Doug Show” podcast with Bill Landis.

Bob and Doug go back and forth about what went wrong for James Franklin at Penn State and focus on what the program should be looking for in its next permanent head coach.

Doug makes it clear PSU should not be considering Brian Kelly.

Plus, Doug discusses what makes the Penn State coaching job such an attractive position.

Bob and Doug also mention some coaching candidates PSU should consider.

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