From Elizabeth May’s permanent iron grip on the Green party to Jagmeet Singh’s self-destructive Liberal alliance and the sabotaging of NDP campaigns by Avi Lewis and Naomi Klein’s “Leap Manifesto”: Mark Leiren-Young, a committed environmentalist, saw all of it from a front-row seat. He had worked to help elect the politicians he thought were committed to fighting for his cause. But, as he tells Brian Lilley — and describes in his new book, “Greener Than Thou: Surviving the Toxic Sludge of Canadian Ecopolitics” — he discovered they turned out to be more committed to fighting with each other, while being lousy at politics. For people truly interested in his kind of change, Leiren-Young explains why it might be better if these parties disappear entirely. (Recorded Oct. 31, 2025.)

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