From our collaborating partner Living on Earth, public radio’s environmental news magazine , an interview by Steve Curwood and Jenni Doering with Michael Coe, a senior scientist and tropical forest expert at the Woodwell Climate Research Center.

For the first time in 30 years, Brazil was the host of the U.N. climate treaty negotiations known this year as COP30. And it’s no surprise that the country with most of the Amazon tropical rainforest led a major advance for forests and their Indigenous inhabitants.

There have been other attempts to incentivize protecting forests, including carbon offsets, but these have been vulnerable to fraud and have had limited success.

Through the COP, Brazil, Norway and the Netherlands seeded a new fund of $5.5 billion (with ambitions to grow it to $125 bi

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