Below is a lightly edited, AI-generated transcript of the “First Opinion Podcast” interview with Sandy Tibke and Josh Gryniewicz. Be sure to sign up for the weekly “First Opinion Podcast” on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Get alerts about each new episode by signing up for the “First Opinion Podcast” newsletter . And don’t forget to sign up for the First Opinion newsletter , delivered every Sunday.

Torie Bosch: Sandy Tibke and Josh Gryniewicz wanted to spark productive conversation around vaccines in North Dakota. At a time when discussing vaccines often means yelling, not listening, they actually accomplished their goal by teaming up with churches, cowboys, chiropractors, hairdressers, and veterinarians.

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