CLEVELAND, Ohio — A recent exchange between cleveland.com Guardians beat reporters Joe Noga and Paul Hoynes sparked an unexpected debate about what constitutes success for Cleveland in the pursuit of a World Series title — and the responses from fans were both passionate and surprisingly varied.

The discussion began with dueling columns exploring whether the Guardians are doing enough to achieve their stated goal of winning a World Series. While Hoynes suggested the team might need to do more , Noga advocated for patience with the current approach . What followed was an outpouring of fan perspectives that revealed a more nuanced view of success than simply counting championship trophies.

One especially thoughtful response came from longtime fan Greg Candle of Cleveland, who wrote:

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