Love has "always been problematic" for Jarvis Cocker.

"Using the word in my own songs [and] in real life was difficult. I don't think I actually said it to anybody until I was about 40 years old," Cocker, now 61, explains on Take 5 with Zan Rowe.

Watch Take 5 with Zan Rowe Photo shows Zan Rowe operates a record table as Pulp's Jarvis Cocker looks on and smiles

Across six episodes, icons in music and screen join Double J host Zan Rowe to delve deep into intimate moments in their lives as they share five songs they love.

Best known as the besuited singer out front of Pulp — arguably Britpop's canniest, coolest band — Cocker has never been comfortable with romantic tropes.

"It just seemed corny somehow … You'd seen it so many times in films or heard it in songs that it seemed like a

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