Former President Barack Obama ripped fellow Democrats over their messaging, warning that some in his party are falling short of bridging the gap between ideology and voters.

“You can’t constantly lecture people without acknowledging that you’ve got some blind spots too, and that life’s messy,” Obama said during an interview on comedian Marc Maron’s final episode of the WTF podcast, which aired Monday.

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Obama urged Democrats to avoid “holier than thou” language, arguing that his colleagues can stand by their beliefs while maintaining a healthy level

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