They say, “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.” But what if science suggests otherwise? The age-old debate over whether people are born with darkness inside them or shaped by life’s experiences continues to intrigue psychologists, philosophers, and everyday observers alike. Recently, Julia Shaw, a German-Canadian criminal psychologist, shared her perspective on whether psychopaths are born evil.

Shaw appeared on the popular Lex Fridman Podcast , where Fridman explored the psychology behind crime and human cruelty. He began with a provocative question from Shaw’s own book Making Evil : “Would you kill baby Hitler?” Calling it a “defining question,” Fridman asked her to explain.

“It’s meant to get people talking about whether they believe people are born with traits that make them capable of e

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