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House Speaker Mike Johnson battled ABC News host Jonathan Karl on Sunday over Secretary of War Pete Hegseth's Pentagon press policy and Johnson's own rhetoric about the anti-Trump "No Kings" protests around the country.

"Do you have a sense for why the secretary of Defense seems to be afraid to interact with journalists who cover him?" Karl asked Johnson.

Hegseth is enforcing a new policy requiring journalists to agree to specific conditions in order to be granted access. Many news organizations are pushing back against the policy, with dozens of reporters turning in their press badges last week rather than comply.

Johnson pushed back and said, "Fear is not part of the Secretary of War’s make-up, OK?"

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