U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who is also the U.S. national security advisor, told Greg Laurie on the evangelical pastor’s show that he draws on his Christian faith to navigate scary global developments.

“I can’t even imagine the kind of information you’re exposed to and the things that could cause great alarm and the things that could cause fear,” Laurie said in an interview on Oct. 15, which the U.S. State Department released on Tuesday.

“How do you process that?” the pastor asked.

“I think fear is an enemy. It’s a paralytic,” Rubio said. “Of all the faiths in the world, and I’m not prejudging or criticizing anybody, but of all of the faiths in the world, the ones who should never live in fear or the ones who should never live in worry that becomes paralyzing are Christians, be

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