There are different preparation timetables for NC State and Wake Forest as they get ready for Thursday night's game at Winston-Salem, N.C.

Yet both teams want the same results they've experienced so far.

"For this football team, (it's) our first road test and the short week," NC State coach Dave Doeren said. "We've had a Thursday game coming out of training camp, a long prep getting ready for Game 2, now a short prep for Game 3. We have no routine, and that's our routine right now. It's different every week."

It's the Atlantic Coast Conference opener for both, even though NC State (2-0) topped Virginia on Saturday in a nonleague matchup between ACC members.

Wake Forest (2-0) will play its third consecutive home game under coach Jake Dickert.

"I think the biggest message to our team is

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